Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. The subject today is about memory. How does memory work on the piano? People play whole programs—an hour and a half or more of music—all from memory. Their fingers know just where to go. How does that work? I received a question that addresses this from a viewer named Frank. Frank asks, “When professional pianists perform long, complicated pieces, say, a concerto or sonata, how much of that is from muscle memory versus actual explicit memory? That is, do their hands just know where to go? Or can they actually write out the scores of the works they perform?” This is a great question!

There’s so much involved in memory.

If you’ve played a piece a number of times and you’ve gotten it under control, you get to a point where you can be playing your piece and you realize right in the middle that you’re daydreaming. Yet it keeps going! Well, this is a fact of life, not just with piano playing but with so many things we do, for example, walking. When you walk, you can be thinking about many different things, but the act of walking actually takes a tremendous amount of coordination, as you can see in the face of a toddler learning how to walk for the first time. This is even true about driving a car. I hate to say it, but you can drive a car without really being aware. Did you know that there are people who sleepwalk who sometimes drive cars while they are asleep?

Muscle memory is an intrinsically important part of memory on the piano.

For those brief moments when you lose concentration, thank goodness you have muscle memory to keep your fingers moving. However, you certainly can’t rely on this. Your fingers don’t know if you’re in the earlier or later part of a sonata movement. They don’t know whether you’ve made repeats or not. You have to have that part of yourself looking down on yourself so you know where you are in the music and what comes next. Without this awareness, you could easily take a wrong turn.

Could you actually think through and write out the entire score of a piece you have memorized?

If you really know your score, yes, you could absolutely write it out. Ideally, you should be so familiar with your score that you can remember every detail. If you sit down at the piano and just try to slow down a piece that you’ve played many times, it can be difficult to get from note to note without the benefit of muscle memory. This is why slow practice is so important on the piano. It solidifies your memory. It makes you have intention with every note you play. Slow practice is a great way to develop security and knowledge of the score. Practicing slowly with the score gives you double reinforcement. You get the feeling of each note being delineated clearly and distinctly while also absorbing the visual image of the notes on the score of something you’ve already memorized.

Writing out a score is an incredibly difficult task.

Writing out just one minute of music can take hours, even if you know exactly what you want to write. Figuring out rhythms and counting them out so you know exactly what kinds of notes to write, where each slur comes in, which notes are staccato, where the dynamics start and end, hairpin crescendos and decrescendos—these are the kinds of infinitesimally small details of music that can make a profound difference in the integrity of your performance. Not to mention the fact that great composers didn’t just put these markings in willy-nilly. The architecture of the piece is dependent upon the precision of these details in the composition. So it’s well worth your while to learn the score exactly as it’s written, to the point where you could write it out.

You want to be able to hear every note of the score in your mind.

One of the great ways to practice a piece you’ve learned and can play well is to sit down without the score and start playing in your lap. Better yet, do it without even moving your fingers, thinking it through as if you’re playing. If you can do that, then you really know your scores tremendously well. I had a situation many years ago when I was at the Manhattan School of Music. I came down with mononucleosis, and I just couldn’t seem to knock it. I was in bed for several months. I had a recital that was scheduled, and I had to keep postponing it. Finally, I just really wanted to play the recital. I was getting better, but I wasn’t really strong enough to practice that much. My program was about an hour and a half of music. It was a solo recital, and it was all memorized. So I took the stack of music into bed with me, and I practiced in bed, going through it just as I described, trying to think through every detail. Whenever I couldn’t remember exactly the voicing of a chord, where a slur ended, or exactly where a crescendo started, I would reference the score until I could get through everything successfully.

Visualizing a desired outcome is a valuable tool.

Visualization is a way that many people find success, not just in playing the piano but in almost every aspect of life. If you have an upcoming job interview, you could rehearse in your mind. A basketball player could imagine getting a free throw shot in. This is the best kind of practice you can ever do because you don’t have the benefit of tactile memory. It’s just pure thought, which is pure practicing, because, as I’ve said so many times, practicing is a mental discipline. So take this to heart. And by the way, that recital I played years ago was so much better than one I had played a year earlier, even though I spent far less time at the piano. But I did the mental work to prepare, and it made all the difference in the world.

Try these techniques in your practice!

Take out the score of the music you’ve memorized. Play through slowly and securely. Take your foot off the pedal to hear what’s really there. Exaggerate finger motions with raised fingers and delineate staccato from the wrist. Challenge yourself and try playing mentally, first moving your fingers, and then eventually getting to the point where you can just play through the piece with all the nuance of sound and touch, all away from the piano. Let me know how this works for you! Thanks again for joining me, Robert Estrin, here at LivingPianos.com, Your Online Piano Resource.

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How Does Memory Work on the Piano?

Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. The subject today is about memory. How does memory work on the piano? People play whole programs—an hour and a half or more of music—all from memory. Their fingers know just where to go. How d

Welcome to Living Pianos, Robert Estrin here providing ways you can make money playing the piano. Can you make a living playing the piano? Did you know that there are tens of millions of piano students in China alone? And there are countless pianists in the entire world. However:

There are only around 200 pianists performing internationally in the great concert halls around the world.

There are close to 1,800 higher education schools granting music degrees in the United States alone. And each of these has piano majors graduating, hoping to become concert pianists. You might be discouraged by the whole idea of making a living as a pianist, but hang on a minute, because:

There are many ways to make a living playing the piano.

You’ll find that most people today who are making a living with the piano are people who are highly creative, not just in their art of playing the instrument but in their whole approach to how they bring the piano to people. After all, the piano has been around for centuries. It took hundreds of years for the piano to develop, but it’s been in its modern form since the latter part of the 1800s. Naturally, in that time period, there were some phenomenal pianists, from Liszt to Chopin and so many more.

In the early 20th century, the piano was the de facto home entertainment system in the United States!

The piano was tremendous, but it’s been on the decline, particularly in the United States, for over 100 years now. In China, the piano is really huge. There are hundreds of companies making pianos. And, as I said, there are about 40 or 50 million piano students in China! So at least in one part of the world, piano has risen in popularity. But let’s get back to how you can make money with the piano. There are many different ways. Obviously, playing solo piano concerts is tough. If you’re creative and you can figure out local series and what they’re looking for, you might just be able to find some possibilities for performing solo piano concerts. That is great because you are able to hone your craft and exploit what you’ve been trained for and spent your whole life lovingly working on.

Accompanying other musicians and collaborative playing in general can be richly rewarding.

There is some phenomenal chamber music repertoire for piano quartet or quintet. I was able to perform the Schumann Piano Quintet a couple of years ago. It’s a great piece. There are also great works by Brahms and Dvořák. There’s just spectacular music, and it’s quite an art form! It almost sounds like an orchestra because you have the string quartet plus a piano. It is one of the greatest ensembles, if you haven’t explored it. And there are many other opportunities for collaboration.

Almost all violin and cello solo music has piano parts that are fundamental to the works.

There is some great solo music for strings, by Bach in particular. Paganini and other composers did write solo music for violin and cello. But the vast majority of solo music for strings has integral piano parts that can be as demanding or even more demanding and intrinsic than the string parts. It can be a richly rewarding experience to accompany a soloist. But it’s not just string players. Virtually every orchestral instrument that has solo music, the vast majority of it is collaboration with the piano. Because of this, people are always looking for pianists. It can be a daunting task to think of all the music you have to learn. You might consider specializing. Maybe you’ll just learn a lot of vocal accompaniments. Maybe you’ll specialize in opera accompaniments or art songs. Maybe you played clarinet and are familiar with the literature, so you could specialize in learning accompaniments to clarinet music. You will find that virtually all instruments are looking for pianists to play their music with. So this is a great possibility!

What other possibilities are there in regards to performing?

There are other opportunities, whether it’s a musical theater production looking for somebody to play keyboard parts or rock bands, folk, country, or what have you. There are dance companies and schools that need pianists for rehearsals and performances. There are many different performing opportunities if you are versatile. Expanding the styles that you are comfortable with makes you much more marketable. This can provide you with more opportunities to play the piano.

Playing at church or in other places of worship can offer rich opportunities for musical collaboration.

There is a vibrant in-home concert scene in many communities in which people with good pianos in large enough homes host concerts and offer refreshments. Audience members all pay a fee to the artist. This provides important performing opportunities for musicians while enriching the lives of the people in the community. If you are creative, you may be able to work out musical programs in nursing homes or private schools offering a valuable experience for people of all ages.
Composers are always looking for opportunities to have their music performed.

Teaching is a tremendous way to share your craft.

You don’t necessarily have to get an advanced degree to teach piano. If you want to teach at the university or college level, a master’s degree is a prerequisite these days. A doctorate degree is very helpful because there are hundreds, if not thousands, of piano performance majors graduating each year in the United States and abroad, and they are all looking for these positions. So you have to do something to set yourself apart. I recommend not just getting advanced degrees, but trying to do something original so you can be noticed among the hundreds or thousands of applicants that schools receive for these positions. Something that is unique to you, some voice that you have, a vision about the piano in society today, or a specialty of repertoire. Maybe you love contemporary music and just want to help composers. That’s another great way to get performance opportunities.

Composers are always looking for opportunities to have their music performed.

If you love contemporary music and are willing to put in the work, you can find people who will pay you to play their music because they need performances. Otherwise, the music just sits somewhere, and nobody gets to hear it except maybe a machine playing it. What fun is that?

To teach privately, you don’t even need a degree!

You just have to have training to be able to know how to teach. There are people like myself who teach piano pedagogy, so you can get instruction in that. You don’t have to be a concert-level player to be a good teacher. In fact, there are many concert pianists who are not necessarily great teachers. Maybe they were child prodigies, and they have no idea how they do what they do. Someone who started later in life may not have a virtuosic technique, but may still understand how to convey what it takes to learn a piece of music. That knowledge could be passed on to piano students. It can be a tremendous experience to help people develop their piano playing.

There are many ways in which you can share your music on the piano.

Creating music for media is another way. You could offer original music for websites, films, or commercials. There are endless possibilities. Become adept at software and social media, because this is the way of the world. Maybe 100 years ago, it was possible just to play classical piano concerts. In some places in the world today, like Europe, may still be possible. But in this country, it’s a lost art to a great extent. And there are so many people vying for opportunities to perform. There are places like the Nixon Museum in Orange County that have people wanting to perform there with no fee whatsoever, playing for free! So there’s a lot of competition. You have to be creative! Think of all the different types of performances, teaching, and what you can do with media, social media, and technology to be able to bring piano to more people and to be able to make money doing it. So those are my suggestion for you. Anyone who has other suggestions, please let us know in the comments! Thanks again for joining me,Robert Estrin, here atLivingPianos.com, Your Online Piano Resource.

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Musical Test: How Good is Your Ear?

This is Robert Estrin at LivingPianos.com. Today we have a musical test for you! You can test your musical ear with the accompanying video. You have an opportunity to see if you can hear the difference between different types of triads. What is a Tri

Bach Toccata in E Minor – Robert Estrin, Pianist

Bach lived in Leipzig, Germany and did very little travelling. However, whenever musicians came through town, he would make a point of hearing them. So he wrote a vast array of music of different cultures including English Suites, French Suites, Ital

Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. The question today is about whether you should you follow pedal markings in your scores. All too often, you don’t even have pedal markings! So where should you pedal? In a nutshell, it’s where harmonies change. You don’t want to blur harmonies from one chord to another because you get a mess of dissonance. So whenever harmonies change, that’s the appropriate place to change the pedal. But what about when you do have pedal indications in the score? Well, this comes down to two factors. Are they the composer’s markings or the editor’s markings?

Very few composers wrote pedal markings in their scores.

Most of the pedal markings you’re going to find are editors’ markings. You can try them, but I would, for the most part, ignore them unless you find them helpful. Now, what about when composers write pedal markings? There are some places where Beethoven wrote pedal markings, for example. Even then, with Beethoven as a good example, the piano was a very different instrument during Beethoven’s lifetime. As a matter of fact, the piano was a very different instrument early in Beethoven’s life compared to later in his life! The piano was evolving. The pedaling that worked for Beethoven’s piano doesn’t necessarily work well for the modern piano. Well, what about later composers? If you have composers from the late 19th or 20th century who wrote pedal markings, should you follow them? You may want to in some instances.

Sometimes you’ll have markings for the una corda pedal, the soft pedal. Should you follow them?

In regards to the una corda pedal, on some pianos, the soft pedal does almost nothing. On a new piano, for example, where the hammers aren’t grooved, the change in position of the hammers makes very little difference. On other pianos, it can make a dramatic difference in tone. If the hammers are very heavily grooved, the una corda pedal will make a significant tonal change. You’ve probably noticed how, on a grand piano, the action and the hammers move when you depress the una corda pedal. That puts the soft felt striking the strings. So did the composer make these una corda pedal markings for a piano with a dramatic change or a subtle change? You have to weigh that in deciding whether you follow the markings. Ultimately, your ears are your guide.

What about sustain pedal markings?

In regards to the sustain pedal, different pianos have different levels of sustain. Different rooms have different qualities of reverberation. Also, the composer may or may not have been a great interpreter of their own music! So I would say pedal markings are suggestions. Try them, by all means, when the composer wrote them, certainly, and even if editors wrote them. But if they don’t work for you, don’t feel compelled to follow pedal markings in your scores. They may or may not work on your piano, in your room, or in the style you’re trying to achieve in your playing. I hope this is helpful for you! Thanks again for joining me, Robert Estrin, here at LivingPianos.com, Your Online Piano Resource.

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Should You Follow Pedal Markings in Your Scores?

Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. The question today is about whether you should you follow pedal markings in your scores. All too often, you don’t even have pedal markings! So where should you pedal? In a nutshell, it’

Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. With over 1500 videos on LivingPianos.com, it’s amazing when I think of a topic that I’ve never covered before that’s so fundamental! Today I’m going to talk about how to practice reading pieces. First of all, let me explain what I’m talking about. I have obviously described the process of practicing pieces to memorize: the painstaking process of taking one hand at a time, very small phrases, mastering all elements of the score, the notes, rhythm, fingering, phrasing, and expression of each hand separately, memorizing them, putting them together one phrase at a time, and then connecting them. But sometimes your pieces are not solo pieces, and it wouldn’t make much sense to memorize them.

You may have pieces you aren’t going to memorize but still want to play at a high level.

For example, let’s say you’re playing in an orchestra that has a piano part in it. You’re not going to memorize such a score. Or if you’re accompanying a singer, if the piece is at your reading level, you can just read through it. But suppose it’s harder than that, and you want to play it with them. You’re not going to memorize this piece; so how do you approach such a thing? I’m going to tell you about that. Read to the end because I’m going to tell you an additional benefit to this that’s essential for your piano practice.

You can’t learn a piece by simply reading through it.

I describe the process of how to learn a piece of music that you’re memorizing as opposed to just reading it through again and again until you kind of get it. The danger with that type of practice is that unless you’re playing it perfectly, you are likely doing more harm than good. If the piece is of sufficient difficulty for you, it’s probably not something you cqn just read through perfectly. Otherwise, why study that piece if you can already play it? So usually, you’re taking a piece of music that has more challenges than something you can just read through perfectly. If you read through something you’re missing again and again, you’re going to reinforce those mistakes. In a piece, each note has a rhythm, a fingering, a dynamic level, and other expression markings. So if you count up the number of notes in a piece and multiply by four or five with all the elements that it has, you come up with thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of details! There’s no way that you can just assimilate that kind of information without an organized approach.

What do you do to learn a piece of music you’re not memorizing?

Interestingly, you can use much of the same type of practice method with a piece you are not going to memorize! First, read through the piece just to get acquainted. If there are large sections you can already play just reading, that’s good. You may not need to practice those parts further. But for any sections that you can’t just read through adequately, practice them the same way you practice memorizing. However, because you’re not memorizing, you can take a bigger chunk of music at a time. So if normally you take two measure phrases, hands separately, maybe you take four measure phrases or even eight measure phrases.

Get one hand really fluent, study the score carefully for all details, get the dynamics right from the get-go, and work out good fingering. Learn all the details of the score. If there are expression marks that provide additional indications of how the music should be played, incorporate them right from the beginning. Get one hand as fluent as possible, and then do the same thing with the other hand. You’re not memorizing, but just getting it totally fluid. Then put your hands together. Slow down at first so you can get it accurate the first time, then play it many times and speed the phrase up. Work through the whole piece in this manner connecting sections as you go. You might not be able to get everything up to tempo right at the beginning, but get each section as fast as you can, knowing that you’re going to revisit it tomorrow to work on all the sections again. Then you can get it a little bit faster and get more fluid connections between sections, always working to the point of diminishing returns on all sections. You’ll know which sections still need work because you won’t be able to play those sections adequately up to tempo yet.

You can revisit pieces you’ve already memorized and solidify your work by reading them.

You can go through pieces you’ve already memorized, and any sections you can’t read, you can practice in this manner. It’s absolutely essential that you are able to read through pieces you have memorized. Otherwise, over time, they will degrade. You won’t possibly be able to keep all the integrity of your memory over a long period of time through sheer repetition of playing without referencing the score. You must go back and reinforce the memory by reading through the score. This is a great way to develop your reading abilities in pieces that you want to be able to play that are not to be memorized, as well as reinforcing the memory of pieces you’ve already learned. I hope this is helpful for you! Thanks again for joining me, Robert Estrin, here at LivingPianos.com, Your Online Piano Resource.

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How to Practice Reading Pieces

Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. With over 1500 videos on LivingPianos.com, it’s amazing when I think of a topic that I’ve never covered before that’s so fundamental! Today I’m going to talk about how to p

Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. Today I’m going to give you two reasons why you must change fingers when you have repeated notes on the piano. Oftentimes, you’ll see fingering telling you to use different fingers on the same note. Why would you need to do that? Can’t you just play the same note with the same finger? The answer is yes, but there are two times when this is not true. Today I’m going to show you two times when you absolutely must change fingers on repeated notes.

Changing fingers is crucial on fast, repeated notes.

Very fast, repeated notes are virtually impossible to play with one finger. You couldn’t possibly play fast enough with one finger instead of using multiple fingers. Different fingers can absolutely go faster. So that’s an obvious place where you must change fingers on repeated notes. But there’s another time when you must change fingers on repeated notes as well.

If you want to achieve a true legato on repeated notes, you must change fingers.

By lifting up previously played finger while the next finger is coming down, you can achieve a far smoother sound when repeating the same note. You can achieve a far greater legato.. Now, you might think that you can make it work by using the pedal, and the pedal will indeed help; but even without using the pedal, you can achieve a legato sound by changing fingers on a repeated note. It’s remarkable how much legato can be achieved even without the pedal!

By adding the pedal with the repeated notes and changing fingers, you get the ultimate smooth legato.

You don’t need to use the pedal all that much. The changing of fingers makes for such a better legato. To recap, when you play quickly, you must change fingers in order to facilitate rapid, repeated notes. And when you have slow repeated notes that are to be played smoothly, you also must change fingers in order to achieve a true legato. However, if you have instances with repeated notes that don’t require an extreme legato, or aren’t so fast, you can use the same finger and get good results. But these are two instances where you must change fingers on repeated notes. I hope this is helpful for you! Thanks again for joining me, Robert Estrin, here at LivingPianos.com, Your Online Piano Resource.

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2 Reasons You Must Change Fingers on Repeated Notes

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Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. I am so pleased to have a special guest today, Bijan Taghavi! Bijan was a student of mine from the time he was eight years old until after high school, when he went to the Manhattan School of Music as a piano major. He studied classical music, played concertos, and accompanied metropolitan opera singers, but all along, he also played other styles of music. I’m proud to announce that:

He is coming out with his second album with his trio, TrioGram!

Robert: Welcome, Bijan!

Bijan: Thanks for having me, Bob. I’m so happy to be here.

Robert: So tell me the latest. What’s going on with you? Then we’ll start from the beginning and talk about your metamorphosis in music. I’m sure everybody’s interested in this.

Bijan: I’m actually in town visiting Cleveland now because I’m playing at the Treelawn, which is a new jazz club. They got their piano from you, actually. It’s literally a two-minute walk from here in the Waterloo Arts District in Cleveland. So I’m going to be playing here, and then we’re off to Europe for a tour for our first album, which came out a few months ago. And then, pretty soon thereafter, we’re going to be going to L.A. to do our second TrioGram album. It’s a jazz piano trio with myself, led by my friend, the great bassist Will Lyle. We’re going to have a special guest drummer who played with the Bill Evans Trio: Joe LaBarbera. So I’m so excited about that. It’s going to be great!

Robert: That’s really exciting! This is your second European tour, is that right?

Bijan: It’s my second international tour. I did a Bijan Taghavi Trio tour back in 2018 in Japan, which, by the way, has an incredibly vibrant… I was going to say music scene, but it’s actually a perfect situation where the musicians aren’t necessarily as great as they are here, but the audiences actually love jazz over there, so it’s a perfect problem. There’s more demand than supply! So when we go there, they absolutely love it. The venues are packed, and it’s a lot of fun.

Robert: Fantastic!

You’re teaching at Hillsdale College.

We could talk a little bit about your academic background, but I think people would be really interested in how you started off in classical, but from the very beginning, you’d come in with blues and Elton John tunes. I always worked with you on these other styles, but you were spearheading major concertos by Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff, and then suddenly you had a pivotal event that shifted everything. Talk about the difference between classical and jazz. What was it like for you to make that shift? How did this happen?

Bijan: When I switched to studying with you, that was really when I became serious with the piano. Before that, I had just gone to the Yamaha School of Music. I was there for maybe five years or something. I started when I was three and a half. Elton John was actually my inspiration, so that’s probably why later on, when I first started venturing outside of classical music, I started just exploring with some Elton John tunes. But then I went to a performance of yours, and do you remember where I sat in relation to you?

Robert: Yes, yes. This was very early on, and you were just a little kid. I was playing a private concert in a beautiful home in Huntington Beach, and this little kid came over and sat with his head right on the edge of the keyboard! I said, “Can you go to the other side?” Because you were blocking the audience!

Bijan: Completely blocking the audience!

Robert: The entire performance, you were just riveted! For such a young kid, that was really pretty shocking! Then I heard you play, and I could hear that, you know, even though you were elementary, you had a lot of talent and so much enthusiasm. I always enjoyed working with you. The interesting thing was that, from the very beginning, you’d spend your allowance money on sheet music. Not many kids do that!

Bijan: At the time, I remember you weren’t taking students, or at least that’s what you said. Maybe you just didn’t want to take the elementary level first. But then, once you heard that I was spending my allowance on sheet music, that showed you that I was really committed to doing something with the piano, whether it was professional or not, and that I was taking it seriously. You know,

Studying with you—it’s not hyperbole to say it really changed my life in terms of my trajectory.

First of all, with the piano, I figured out how to practice, which I’m sure people who watch your YouTube channel know is a big concept that you emphasize in your lessons and everything. I learned everything I know about how to play the piano, piano technique, how to get a good sound out of the piano, piano tone, etc., from you. I did all those main classical works, as far as even playing solo piano concerts at your old Art District Concert series.

You even prepared me to play the Grieg Piano Concerto with the South Coast Symphony.

But then I made the transition. It was really sort of two main catalyst events for me that made me switch. The first thing was that I had a concert with a Latin jazz flutist, Néstor Torres. That was the first true sort of jazz experience that I ever had. At that time, even though I had spent, like you said, some allowance money on rock songs, Billy Joel, Elton John, and a little bit of blues, I didn’t really know how to read chord charts. So that was the craziest thing for me to look at. They were looking for a jazz pianist out of the high school group because he came to our high school, and I just said I could play jazz piano. Then I was handed, over the summer, this stack of like 20 lead sheets. Now it might be easy for me because I’m so used to that, but at the time, reading a lead sheet was like the craziest thing. I didn’t even know what I was looking at!

Robert: I remember you coming into your lesson with this book. We had done some theory, but to realize an entire concert’s worth of lead sheets? There’s no way there would be time during a lesson! We just scratched the surface, but somehow you assimilated all those scores! And that was when you were still in high school.

Bijan: Yeah, I was still in high school. My guitar teacher, who also helped me a lot in making the transition, gave me this sort of cheat sheet that had every single chord on it. And there were unnecessary chords too. It was like maybe a stack of like 25 chords written on this page. It had the chord, and then it had the formula. I didn’t really understand how there are only four chord families, and you don’t need that list of 25, but I went through each chord methodically in the lead sheet and figured out what the chords are. So it was a lot of work. But I sort of temporarily quit my foray into jazz after that. In retrospect, Néstor was right. He told me something that sort of depressed me a little bit about the possibility. He said, “Look, kid, you’ve got a long way to go.” Particularly with my improvisation and things like that, because I didn’t have much jazz language then, even though I was experimenting with things. That’s an area where you were really encouraging to me. I’m indebted to you forever for that. You encouraged me to keep going and to explore more and more.

The second catalyst for me was when I heard the great late pianist Oscar Peterson. When I first transitioned to jazz, I didn’t have a jazz teacher for the longest time. You would help me out a lot, but:

I didn’t study with a jazz teacher until I went to the Manhattan School of Music later.

So I had sort of a year-long period where it was really just Oscar Peterson. I actually didn’t like jazz, which is the funniest thing. Some of the greatest jazz pianists like Bill Evans and McCoy Tyner, for me, my ears weren’t even ready for that. But I was lucky enough that Oscar was able to draw me in. Now I can appreciate all those artists, and I’ve taken so much from those other pianists as well. But those were the main two catalysts for me.

Robert: With all my students, I give a solid background in the three macro skills of memorization, sight reading, and improvisation. One of the things I do from the earliest stages is just have students play a very simple chord progression. First, I will go on one side of the piano and comp and let the student play all white keys. I’ll do a Dorian mode. Then I’ll switch it and let the student comp (and I solo). Then I say, “Okay, now the hard part. See if you can comp with your left hand and solo with the right hand.” And there are varying degrees of success. Sometimes people just start playing methodically up the keyboard, one note at a time. I’ll say, “Hold some notes longer than others,” to try to get some variety. But right from the very first time you did it; I couldn’t believe you were able to do it the first time you tried! That’s when I realized that you had an incredible affinity for this. The other thing was your sense of rhythm with popular styles. You had a great groove, even as the youngest kid, in addition to being able to play Beethoven and Chopin scherzos and all of that.

But getting back to TrioGram, what is the whole concept of TrioGram? On your albums, It’s all original music. How much of it is yours? Tell us a bit more about your trio.

Bijan: Yeah, it’s a lot of original music. TrioGram is an association of myself and one of my best friends, Will Lyle, a great bass player. We’re both from Southern California, actually, although we never met there. We met afterwards when we were both in college, and we found out we’re both from there. But he and I had worked a lot together in the past, and we always meant to do a project together. We thought, what better way than to do a piano trio? First of all, as a pianist, a piano trio is one of the premier settings to feature a jazz pianist because you’re in control of everything. You’re playing the melodies; you’re the main soloist instrument, although the bassist can solo as well. So it really features the pianist. It’s a lot of fun, but it’s also kind of intimidating at the same time. But it was this project that he and I put together. Basically, it was just the end of last summer in 2022. We were both incredibly busy, but we thought, let’s do a record together at the end of a month. So we only gave ourselves a month. Naturally, he and I both got busy. I’m doing a lot of work in Michigan, and he’s doing a lot of work in New York. But our drummer mistakenly thought we were still going on with the project even though we had decided to stop it. He just did this little post on Facebook. He said, “Hey guys, I’m going to be in town doing this recording session.” I was like, “Hey, Will, did you not tell Kofi that we’re not going to be doing this anymore?” Then we talked about it and decided that maybe we should go ahead and do it. So it was really put together at the last minute. We decided the tunes last minute, and we wrote the tunes last minute, but it turned out a lot better than we expected. It was great. We did a lot of original music. He did some original tunes, and

I did some original tunes, one of which was dedicated to you, actually. It’s called “Changes.”

Robert: A great tune, by the way. We’ll have links for you so you can check out some of Bijan’s music.

The last thing I want to ask about is your upcoming album. You’ve got another drummer featuring on this album. Tell us about that, because that’s a really exciting development.

Bijan: After we did the first record, Will and I did a series of tours. We did one on the West Coast, where we went to Mexico and did a series of shows there with incredible audiences. They were so supportive of our music. Then we went to California and Arizona. In California, we had featured special guest drummers with us, and in L.A., we played with the great drummer Joe LaBarbera, who was one of the drummers for the iconic Bill Evans trio. We had the rehearsal, and I’m really picky with musicians and drummers because there’s a very particular thing that I want, and Will is the same way. But after the rehearsal, he and I went outside, and we just started dancing like a bunch of old Iranian women! We were celebrating! It was the most incredible thing. I had never played with a drummer where I felt so good and comfortable. He knew how to support you and play under you, and the sound he gets out of the instrument, I could go on forever. His time feel is just so incredible! We have another tour coming up.

We’re going to be playing with Joe LaBarbera in California, in
San Francisco on July 26 at the Black Cat and on July 27th at Campus Jack’s Jazz Club in Orange County.

And we thought, since we’re doing these gigs with them and we’re going to be in California, let’s do another record with him. So we’re going to be doing another album with Joe LaBarbera, and I’m so excited for it.

Robert: Well, we’ll have links to your website, and once again, it’s great having you here! I know you’ve got to get to your gig up the street in about 5 minutes.

Bijan: I’m going to change and run over there!

Robert: Thanks again for coming. And once again, I’m Robert Estrin, this is LivingPianos.com.

Bijan: Thank you, Bob.

You can find Bijan’s music and tour dates at BijanTaghavi.com.

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Student of Robert Estrin: Bijan Taghavi – Jazz Artist

Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I’m Robert Estrin. I am so pleased to have a special guest today, Bijan Taghavi! Bijan was a student of mine from the time he was eight years old until after high school, when he went to the Manhattan School of Musi